the SRFT super5gt 16s! NEW PICS p3

Vertel hier alles over je project.
sebgtx
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hi all.

I don't speak deutch, i can olny speek english (like i could!)

i present you our super5 gtt who has receive her engine.

it's a 1800 16s of a clio16s.

i had prepare it (all is polished), and it is all new!!!

the car is a ph1, who was not in a good stat. so we decided to get it juste for use on track. this super5 16s will be in "LA CHATRE" on may, comme see her!

the car when we had buy it:
[img]http://home.tele2.fr/sebgtx/IMGP0204-2.JPG[/img]
[img]http://home.tele2.fr/sebgtx/IMGP0206-2.JPG[/img]

the car now:
[img]http://roquet.sylvain.free.fr/SEB/IMG_0002.jpg[/img]
[img]http://roquet.sylvain.free.fr/SEB/IMG_0003.jpg[/img]
[img]http://roquet.sylvain.free.fr/SEB/IMG_0004.jpg[/img]
[img]http://roquet.sylvain.free.fr/SEB/IMG_0006.jpg[/img]

the engine:
[img]http://monsite.wanadoo.fr/ericbrocante/ ... cture1.gif[/img]
[img]http://monsite.wanadoo.fr/ericbrocante/ ... cture2.gif[/img]
[img]http://monsite.wanadoo.fr/ericbrocante/ ... cture2.gif[/img]
[img]http://monsite.wanadoo.fr/ericbrocante/ ... cture2.gif[/img]
[img]http://monsite.wanadoo.fr/ericbrocante/ ... cture1.gif[/img]

and the engine in the car yesterday!!! :
[img]http://monsite.wanadoo.fr/ericbrocante/ ... cture1.gif[/img]
[img]http://monsite.wanadoo.fr/ericbrocante/ ... cture2.gif[/img]
[img]http://monsite.wanadoo.fr/ericbrocante/ ... cture3.gif[/img]

here is!!!!

now, there is all the injection system on it, and we will start him tomorow!

i'll give you others new next time.

see you, seb.
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Abel
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can u take a picture from above the engine? so i can see how mutch space is availible??

Thank you.

It looks realy nice. :worship:
Martijnberk
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good project, but how did you do it with the electronics? is it easy to do or do you have to have a lot of electrical cuts...?

i hope it is plug and play, is the gearbox of the 5 ok for the engine or do you need a clio gearbox?
JiggyMF
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Great project! We want more pics :D
Kinda looks like my car when i got it, all the parts in the back of the car :D

grtz Jiggy
Chris
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Nice project, must been a lot of work! :worship:

But it's done before. (Y)
sebgtx
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Abel schreef:can u take a picture from above the engine? so i can see how mutch space is availible??

Thank you.

It looks realy nice. :worship:
i'll do others pictures next time i'll work on it, it's promise!
sebgtx
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Martijnberk schreef:good project, but how did you do it with the electronics? is it easy to do or do you have to have a lot of electrical cuts...?

i hope it is plug and play, is the gearbox of the 5 ok for the engine or do you need a clio gearbox?
i took the electronic engine of the clio. all the electric of the car is the gtt one. i've done a mix.

yes, it's a plug and play! the gearbox is a gtt one, there is no need other!

it's not complicated, all of you can do it!

since the pics, i've put the electric of the engine, and i hope it will start very fast. next week i wish!

i won't work this W-E, i'll be on winter holiday's at LA PLAGNE! in the french alpes!

see you, seb.
Laatst gewijzigd door sebgtx op wo 23 mar 2005 22:43, 1 keer totaal gewijzigd.
sebgtx
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on this picture, you can see the engine-support of a super5 1700cc

others are from gtt.

see you, seb.
sebgtx
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it's done, the engine has been started!!!

my friend florent and me are very happy.

the engine turn very well, no suspect noise at all! but what a sound!!!

we're speed to ride it. i hope tomorow!

see you, seb.
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nice project!!
speedline
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sebgtx schreef:the gearbox is a gtt one, there is no need other!
There will be a serious degradation in performance with the JB3 009/014/032 gearbox of the gt turbo. The gearbox ratio's are way too long for this high reving engine. The differential ratio is 13% longer and fifth gear another 8%.

Diff ratio for a 16v JB3 048 is 4.22:1 versus the 3.73:1 from the GT Turbo. Fifth gear from a gtt is 0.76:1 versus Clio 0.89:1 1st to 4th ratio are practically the same but the long diff ratio lowers performance in these gears as well.

Torque (and power) available at the wheels will go down the same value. If you want to extract the best performance you'll have to use the original gearbox. Which isn't a problem if you use an instrument cluster from a Clio 16s.

Bad choice mathing this type of gearbox to a F7P engine... (N)
MarcoG
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speedline schreef: ...and fifth gear another 8%.
Woohaa, if you tweak up the engine with camshafts, air-intake, maybe even a turbo or whatever, you can kill a lot of other expensive cars with this! (Y)
What else are you planning to do on the engine?
sebgtx
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speedline schreef:
sebgtx schreef:the gearbox is a gtt one, there is no need other!
There will be a serious degradation in performance with the JB3 009/014/032 gearbox of the gt turbo. The gearbox ratio's are way too long for this high reving engine. The differential ratio is 13% longer and fifth gear another 8%.

Bad choice mathing this type of gearbox to a F7P engine... (N)
thank you but i know that. 8)

don't forget that the wheels are steel on 13". it's a little bit shorter than 15".

then, this geerbox is only there for the grinding (Anlaufzeit). once it will be finish, we'll put on a megane16s geerbox. i think it will be better, don't you? :)

but dont forget that the car is very very light, and it will be easy for the engine to "tow" the car...

so, thank you all the same...

see you, seb. :wink:
sebgtx
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MarcoG schreef:
speedline schreef: ...and fifth gear another 8%.
Woohaa, if you tweak up the engine with camshafts, air-intake, maybe even a turbo or whatever, you can kill a lot of other expensive cars with this! (Y)
What else are you planning to do on the engine?
hi marcoG!

there is camshfts on this engine >-)
also a dynamique air-intake :wink:

but the turbo is not on the planning for this moment. but maybe one day...

see you, seb.
sebgtx
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oups, i realise that i don't tell you what means SFRT!

this is for Seb Florent Racing Team.

i'm seb, and florent is the second owner of this car.

see you, seb.
sebgtx
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hi all,

yesterday, i start driving the car. i'm very happy cos' t'here is no trouble.

all is very clean. but it's hard to don't go away from 2000 rpm!!! 8)

there is much noise in the car, because she's empty!!!

she has done her 50 first km very well. exepte the 2 last with few gazolin.

see you on the 6/7 may at la chatre, seb.
GTt 16S power!
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Chris
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Nice! What's the next step?! Paintjob? Or just cruising it?! (Y)
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Martijnberk
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what kind of fuelpump do you use, the GTT onde or the clio one?
sebgtx
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Martijnberk schreef:what kind of fuelpump do you use, the GTT onde or the clio one?

for this moment, i use the gtt one. the clio one is in the fuel tank!

but soon i'll put a 21turbo one!
Chris schreef:Nice! What's the next step?! Paintjob? Or just cruising it?! (Y)
next part is for the paintjob!!! we're cruising is for doing 1500 km. after, we'll start the paint. it will be a great moment i think. on regard of the work must be doing!

the car has 200 kms. and she take 3.500 rpm! it's not there that the engine is very strong, but we're feeling that she'll have the "fire".

and what a sound...

see you, seb.
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sebgtx
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hi,

today we've ride and ride and ride again. so, the engine take now 5.000 rpm. and what a punch!!! past 3.500 rpm, the car "jump" like a turbo one!!! >-)

it's very fun, but when the power starts, it's time for us to cut the gaz :(

i think this week-end, the engine will take 6.000 rpm. we'll see how it is.

a word about the gearbox. in 3rd gear, at 80 km/h, the car restart very well! there is not many stroke, but the 13" wheels help it very much i think. (Y)

see you, seb.
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Martijnberk
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:foto: can you shoot a movie about it, i am very curious
sebgtx
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i'll try this W-E! promise!

see you!
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sebgtx
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hi all,

juste to say that we have found a clio16 '91 gearbox! (Y)

i'll go to take it on sunday.

i'll put it in the car on next week.

i think that it we'll be a little more funny >-)

see you, seb.
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why don`t you build a diesel gearbox under the 5 if you do that use the gearbox of a clio diesel i don`t know if it fits but you can try it then the car don`t use a lot of gas in low rpm

sorry for the bad englisch greetz

nice project keep up the good work
sebgtx
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hi knetter,

the diesel gearbox are generaly more longer. exepte the JB1, but they are not very strong.

on benzen, they is juste the clio 16s one how is very short!

see you, seb.
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sebgtx
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here is wath i'm woking on this week!

originals
[img]http://home.tele2.fr/sebgtx/fondscompteur5gttnoir1.jpg[/img]

modified
[img]http://home.tele2.fr/sebgtx/fondscompteurgt16s11.jpg[/img]
GTt 16S power!
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Chris
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Good job! :worship:
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sebgtx
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hi,

we've put down the gearbox today.

and it's finally a 11 turbo one how will take thir place in our gt16.

see you, seb.
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sebgtx
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hi guys!

as you asked me, here is a video!

http://home.tele2.fr/sebgtx/100_0690.MOV

telle me what do you think about it!

see you, seb.
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sebgtx
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GTt 16S power!
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Florus
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Nice job! (Y)

But, isn't the radiator a little smal for the 1.8 16v engine
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Nice.

When you place the hose for crankcase venting back on, you'll get rid of that anoying noise.
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sebgtx
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hi sander!

your engine is very clean! (Y)

but it looks very similar!

see you, seb.
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sebgtx
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hi, i've got news.

i've got the R11 gearbox! not too late!

i'll do pics tomorow.

the gt16s will be back soon!!!

see you, seb.
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